Of course Mike Vallely was very good. His part in Speed Freaks 86? was a mile stone in street skating. I think he was the first skater to use a board with both a nose and a tail. When I was maybe 6 or 7 he made me want to go out and skate because he made it look really cool. Good music too.
Before that it was just fish tails or boards based on surf boards. Though there was one deck you could buy by a company called PACER that was double tailed. It was called something like the "DOMINATOR"? or something, can't really remember.
There was a series of early boards by PACER that were all quite cool . I had the "MADDOG" but "MANIAC" was a good one also and the typical snake design you would expect. I think a Chinese kid had that one.
Anyway.. Vallely was on par with Danny Way last time I saw him. I was down my local expecting to normally have football on but it was a pleasant surprise to see Mike jumping a school bus with someone on top playing the drums which was brilliant. Moreso because he had to be pulled by a motorbike into the trick. Vallely was just always a bit better than everybody else when skating was in it's infancy, a bit like Danny Way.
Chad Muska was wicked. He's doing the same sets of stairs that the Gonz did about the same age. The hardest tricks. Chad's pro board was the best skateboard I have ever been on. Amazing pop, made from maple, stuck to your feet like glue. He had the "X-Factor" as a skater. A natural charisma as a skater, I like the way his part in "live the dream" ends with him needing a drink! hitting the bottle. Class
Do you remember that time Tony Blair read out Edward Ward's dissertation from Dublin University in the house of commons thus starting the Iraq war. I laughed so much I could have died. TWAT! (Arrogant twat) Why am I the only person that knows?
I'm sorry god for screwing up my life. I'm sorry for being a bore and and for not getting involved in things as much as I should and I'm sorry for not living my life in a more full and meaningful and complete way. I don't feel particularly passionately about anything except self preservation so I'm sorry about being selfish too. I'm sorry a really good education was wasted on me and that I haven't been able to make better use of it to improve the world we live in. I'm sorry about my public display of cowardice towards the wars of my era. I'm sorry for writing so much crap on the internet and poking my nose into other people's business where it doesn't belong. I'm sorry to poor people and the Natural World that their lives are so much harder than my own or than they should be. My sorry to my mother for not getting married and having children. I'm sorry for having children and not being there for them? I'm sorry there maybe one person out there who is bothering to read this and I'm wasting your time. I'm sorry,etc.... I'm sorry I'm crap!
I miss skating. I really do but I just can't do it these days. Street skatin is risky and the park is always full, plus I'm not as athletic as I used to be and injuries take ages to clear up. Plus everyone took the piss at work.
Omar Hassan was a skater I thought I should be mentioned. He was the only Muslim professional skater I know of. He was quite gnarly. Very solid individual. I wouldn't say he was as naturally talented as some of the other skaters but he was good. No doubt about it. He was a bit of a vert monster like Salmon Agah.
Mark Appleyard maybe should be skater of the year. His tricks are the hardest I've ever seen. So I guess he has taken skating to a new level.
All skaters are good in their own way. It truely is the taking part that counts. I think it is an unnatural act for a person to put their balls at risk doing board slides.
Last time I went out skating all these kids were out too and they were doing huge dangerous tricks, life threateningly big tricks down this massive set of stairs. And right there and then, I knew I would never skate again because I don't want one of these kids breaking something trying to show off in front of me. I have not picked up a skateboard since.
Yeah. so the kids were basically doing tricks down that massive set in Centenary Square. I know one of the kids skates for Danny Wainwright's shop in Bristol now because i've seen him on the net.
It was pretty mad because centenary square is a grave yard memorial site so to skate it is pretty fucked up anyway but there was like 10,000 people walking through that part of town on a really busy day and these kids were busting out backside flips, 180s and even just ollieing it looked so fucking gnarly and this black kid was trying to do nollie hard flips down the set. Mental!! Nearly as mad as the thrasher clip above except I wasn't offering them any money at all and it was totally spontaneous. I honestly thought one of them was going home in an Ambulance, tough little bastards you get in Birmingham. Always had good skaters in Birmingham.
My friend who was a fat bastard and crap at skateboarding became a semi-professional rugby player and was scouted as prop for the England under 21s. 18 stone of fat turned into muscle, became outragously hard for a while. So skating isn't suitable for everybody. He dump tackled me once and sprained my neck. Ouch! Horses for courses.... then he got a city finance job and a coke habit and it all turned back into blubber again.
I buy free range eggs sometimes because some farming techniques are unnecessarily cruel to animals. I don't like the idea of excessive cruelty to animals breed for food.
I used to run a chemi-blacking facility and the management were dumping alot of the waste chemicals that were toxic near the canal. I complained about it to the Chinese guy but he didn't want to know. I'm glad I've left the company. Money good, company bad.
I recyle paper and plastic and metal cans into separate rubbish containers and I am generally not a wasteful person. I try to be green. I care enough about the environment to make a conscious effort to at least make an attempt to preserve it.
I find the relationship I have with the natural world around me to be uplifting. I like natural history programs for example but I also enjoy the wildlife even in my back garden. I had some wicked spiders living in my back garden that went when my neighbours moved.
In my last job I basically felt like I was surrounded by children who were trying to mis behave to get a reaction from me. I like to muck about as much as anyone else in my free time but I take work seriously. I am professional at work. It is unfortunate that childish people have been able to gain power in so many important work environments.
Anyone living in Birmingham can have a bit of a laugh at how shit it is but if you visit the south east or up north where they really are poor and where there really isn't any work or anything constructive going on, it's nothing to laugh about at all.
On many occasions I have seen health and safety put at risk through negligence or a wanton hate of other staff members in the various companies I have worked for. It is a jungle out there and I just wish there was more evidence of legal protection for staff. I, for one, don't want to work in a third world country with third world values.
Infact, if someone was to take photos and evidence of the chemi-blacking facility today. Of the high acidity of the rinse water. Of the filtering granules being dumped round the back of the factory on waste land, given the right legal aid I think they could still sue the company because the management never sorted it out whilst I was there. Wallwork Heat Treatment Ltd. I personally lost alot of weight and changed colour before I told the management where to go and refused to do it anymore.
see: blackfast.com for data sheets and health and safety notes that are being breached. The ammonia leak at TTI in Witton was a fucker to live with. I can only assume the boss was racist to just employ black/asian staff (and me) to subject them to that kind of torture having Ammonia precipitating on the staffs lungs to the extent that it stang at the end of each shift. REAL SCUM! We meed law and order around here. It's not as if these companies lack the resources to deal with these problems. It's just institutional hatred within British Industry of management for staff.
I hate to draw a comparison here but much like Auchvitz. "Work is Freedom" was the slogen oon the gateway to Auchvitz and in much the same way the jobs on offer are not really profitable or beneficial. They are just a cowardly way to beat up people who can't find work in Birmingham. I'd like to emphisis the word COWARDLY and PATHETIC! ... still must move on.
It's like those old bridges that would have been made in Scotland 100 years ago or dams made in China where 100-200 people would die at each site for each build because some you're employing some really primitive murderous people who will kill whoever they can if legally they think they will get away with it. It is disturbing, just take my word for it. I only wish there was something I could do to stop and reverse this regressive, largely unspoken, backward trend. Having eastern european brutes here doesn't help. The wilds of Urasia. The reason we have an immigration problem is because of the advent of air travel. Before that, the "Beasts of the East" created a natural, physical and social barrier to the "Eastern Hords of Asia". Sir, a mix.
I where these Italian leather loafers these days with flat no pattern plastic souls. They look great with a suit and I have adopted the classic style with age. The slightly raised, although effiminate looking, protects the back of your nice expensive trousers from being scuffed by keeping them off the floor.
I don't where trainers or boots anymore. The reason for this is that I have already spent so many hours of my working life mopping floors that I now wear these kind of shoes that leave no prints or marks even walking across a wet floor! You find when you go into Mc Donalds members of staff call you "Sir" which is nice.
If I'm working in my garden or I'm punching someone in the face I'll wear skate shoes or trainers for grip.
Mark Gonzales here, funny guy. I mean, when he did the wallenburg four it just looked like the nastiest trick I've ever seen because he's quite short and for someone lanky like me who falls hard it looks terrifying.
Eddie is writing a series of short stories at the moment in the hope of turning them into short films. I've read one of the scripts he sent me and it's good stuff. Some free publicity Edd.
It's interesting Stephen Gately died from a "pulmonary oedema" because that is what you can expect to die from doing the chemi-blacking at Wallwork if the acid path becomes airborne in a closed environment in direct sunlight which is what I was having to content with. Read the data sheets, it's all there. Absolute nightmare.
Ed is very enthusistic about acting and performance arts. Skating is perhaps more a form of performance arts than a sport I suppose. We used to skate together when we were teenagers.
Ed writes ghost stories. He has many influences and is well read in all forms of popular English/British literature so reading his work is an education in itself.
There was a ghost at Wallwork. I'm going to write this now seeing as we are on the spooky stories theme. I didn't tell anyone but at one point I felt someone touching my back in the dark and there was no-one there. I remember it because it was such a strong sensation it was impossible to ignore. It was too real for me to dismiss.
The other time was when I was in the celler sand banking off the canal and I sat down for a rest just looking at the situation and thinking how absurd it was that the canal was actually flooding the celler and I saw a ghostly apparition moving towards the leaking wall on my left which was very real and very ghostly (in the traditional ghostly sense).
Like a faint white veiled figure moving as if with the wind towards the wall. I went to have a better look and it had already disappeared and I didn't see it again. I never mentioned any of this to my fellow employees and to be honest it didn't really scare me but it happened. Very old site, alot of history tied up in that place. 7th oldest limited company in England.
Of course Eddie is much better at writing than me. Perhaps it was just my sub-conscious telling me firstly that the job was going to f**k my back up and secondly that whoever built that 5 meter thick wall between the canal and our celler is long dead and buried to care that it leaks.
It looks like whoever is updating this site has given up, but for any skate enthusiasts out there who like reminising I'm going to recommend the following link. This you tube channel explores the link between skateboarding and christianity and how some professional skaters have joined the church.
I've had some people commenting that my posts are racist. I'm not a racist person. I don't judge people by the colour of their skin but by their actions. Some people have character traites that distinguish them from others but it's not necesarily a racial issue.
Ok, the channel recommended has removed all it's vids so here's a link to a funny clip that used to be on the site:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5wmI0iKEp8
Here's a link to some American folk music I like about guns by Diana Jones:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMLsTobSlKo
And here's an old favourite by Nirvana, Kurt Cobain, "Come As You Are."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOL5cpwTkes
And here is Damien Rice's - 9 crimes official video. Quite thought provoking music about gun ownership.
Fuck, I've made enough of them, mostly headed for America. "Any dream will do" was my bosses work ethos. What the fuck are Americans dreaming about?
When it comes to one of these conflicts abroad I guess you've got to fight fire with fire but apart from that and practical uses hunting game or whatever I don't think there's any need for them. Scary things.
Danny Way is too good. He's a warrior. Looking at his stuff on youtube. He says he's lucky to be good at skating and that it has been a "blessing" to him. You know, working nine to five isn't that bad. I've never broken any bones in the day job.... truth be told, alot of people are selfish, lazy, ignorant, arrogant. It is true, Danny Way presents a beautiful ideology of what skating is about. Unwaveringly hardcore guy. Well done dude.
Of course Mike Vallely was very good. His part in Speed Freaks 86? was a mile stone in street skating. I think he was the first skater to use a board with both a nose and a tail. When I was maybe 6 or 7 he made me want to go out and skate because he made it look really cool. Good music too.
ReplyDeleteBefore that it was just fish tails or boards based on surf boards. Though there was one deck you could buy by a company called PACER that was double tailed. It was called something like the "DOMINATOR"? or something, can't really remember.
There was a series of early boards by PACER that were all quite cool . I had the "MADDOG" but "MANIAC" was a good one also and the typical snake design you would expect. I think a Chinese kid had that one.
Anyway.. Vallely was on par with Danny Way last time I saw him. I was down my local expecting to normally have football on but it was a pleasant surprise to see Mike jumping a school bus with someone on top playing the drums which was brilliant. Moreso because he had to be pulled by a motorbike into the trick. Vallely was just always a bit better than everybody else when skating was in it's infancy, a bit like Danny Way.
Classic Vallely clip here.
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Chad Muska was wicked. He's doing the same sets of stairs that the Gonz did about the same age. The hardest tricks. Chad's pro board was the best skateboard I have ever been on. Amazing pop, made from maple, stuck to your feet like glue. He had the "X-Factor" as a skater. A natural charisma as a skater, I like the way his part in "live the dream" ends with him needing a drink! hitting the bottle. Class
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AriSepYcZbc
PACER advert from 1989. Very British.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.skateboardstickers.co.uk/index.php?main_page=popup_image&pID=3790&zenid=9119fb505037cf8fb52ae38eb65f95b8
i remember pacer acid drop wheels. heres a link to some old pacer decks.
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Do you remember that time Tony Blair read out Edward Ward's dissertation from Dublin University in the house of commons thus starting the Iraq war. I laughed so much I could have died. TWAT! (Arrogant twat) Why am I the only person that knows?
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry god for screwing up my life. I'm sorry for being a bore and and for not getting involved in things as much as I should and I'm sorry for not living my life in a more full and meaningful and complete way. I don't feel particularly passionately about anything except self preservation so I'm sorry about being selfish too. I'm sorry a really good education was wasted on me and that I haven't been able to make better use of it to improve the world we live in. I'm sorry about my public display of cowardice towards the wars of my era. I'm sorry for writing so much crap on the internet and poking my nose into other people's business where it doesn't belong. I'm sorry to poor people and the Natural World that their lives are so much harder than my own or than they should be. My sorry to my mother for not getting married and having children. I'm sorry for having children and not being there for them? I'm sorry there maybe one person out there who is bothering to read this and I'm wasting your time. I'm sorry,etc.... I'm sorry I'm crap!
ReplyDeleteI miss skating. I really do but I just can't do it these days. Street skatin is risky and the park is always full, plus I'm not as athletic as I used to be and injuries take ages to clear up. Plus everyone took the piss at work.
ReplyDeleteOmar Hassan was a skater I thought I should be mentioned. He was the only Muslim professional skater I know of. He was quite gnarly. Very solid individual. I wouldn't say he was as naturally talented as some of the other skaters but he was good. No doubt about it. He was a bit of a vert monster like Salmon Agah.
Mark Appleyard maybe should be skater of the year. His tricks are the hardest I've ever seen. So I guess he has taken skating to a new level.
ReplyDeleteAll skaters are good in their own way. It truely is the taking part that counts. I think it is an unnatural act for a person to put their balls at risk doing board slides.
Last time I went out skating all these kids were out too and they were doing huge dangerous tricks, life threateningly big tricks down this massive set of stairs. And right there and then, I knew I would never skate again because I don't want one of these kids breaking something trying to show off in front of me. I have not picked up a skateboard since.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZcpNBfqWN0
ReplyDeleteYeah. so the kids were basically doing tricks down that massive set in Centenary Square. I know one of the kids skates for Danny Wainwright's shop in Bristol now because i've seen him on the net.
It was pretty mad because centenary square is a grave yard memorial site so to skate it is pretty fucked up anyway but there was like 10,000 people walking through that part of town on a really busy day and these kids were busting out backside flips, 180s and even just ollieing it looked so fucking gnarly and this black kid was trying to do nollie hard flips down the set. Mental!! Nearly as mad as the thrasher clip above except I wasn't offering them any money at all and it was totally spontaneous. I honestly thought one of them was going home in an Ambulance, tough little bastards you get in Birmingham. Always had good skaters in Birmingham.
My friend who was a fat bastard and crap at skateboarding became a semi-professional rugby player and was scouted as prop for the England under 21s. 18 stone of fat turned into muscle, became outragously hard for a while. So skating isn't suitable for everybody. He dump tackled me once and sprained my neck. Ouch! Horses for courses.... then he got a city finance job and a coke habit and it all turned back into blubber again.
ReplyDeleteYah Dudes!
ReplyDeleteI buy free range eggs sometimes because some farming techniques are unnecessarily cruel to animals. I don't like the idea of excessive cruelty to animals breed for food.
ReplyDeleteI used to run a chemi-blacking facility and the management were dumping alot of the waste chemicals that were toxic near the canal. I complained about it to the Chinese guy but he didn't want to know. I'm glad I've left the company. Money good, company bad.
I recyle paper and plastic and metal cans into separate rubbish containers and I am generally not a wasteful person. I try to be green. I care enough about the environment to make a conscious effort to at least make an attempt to preserve it.
I find the relationship I have with the natural world around me to be uplifting. I like natural history programs for example but I also enjoy the wildlife even in my back garden. I had some wicked spiders living in my back garden that went when my neighbours moved.
In my last job I basically felt like I was surrounded by children who were trying to mis behave to get a reaction from me. I like to muck about as much as anyone else in my free time but I take work seriously. I am professional at work. It is unfortunate that childish people have been able to gain power in so many important work environments.
ReplyDeleteAnyone living in Birmingham can have a bit of a laugh at how shit it is but if you visit the south east or up north where they really are poor and where there really isn't any work or anything constructive going on, it's nothing to laugh about at all.
On many occasions I have seen health and safety put at risk through negligence or a wanton hate of other staff members in the various companies I have worked for. It is a jungle out there and I just wish there was more evidence of legal protection for staff. I, for one, don't want to work in a third world country with third world values.
Infact, if someone was to take photos and evidence of the chemi-blacking facility today. Of the high acidity of the rinse water. Of the filtering granules being dumped round the back of the factory on waste land, given the right legal aid I think they could still sue the company because the management never sorted it out whilst I was there. Wallwork Heat Treatment Ltd. I personally lost alot of weight and changed colour before I told the management where to go and refused to do it anymore.
see: blackfast.com for data sheets and health and safety notes that are being breached. The ammonia leak at TTI in Witton was a fucker to live with. I can only assume the boss was racist to just employ black/asian staff (and me) to subject them to that kind of torture having Ammonia precipitating on the staffs lungs to the extent that it stang at the end of each shift. REAL SCUM! We meed law and order around here. It's not as if these companies lack the resources to deal with these problems. It's just institutional hatred within British Industry of management for staff.
I hate to draw a comparison here but much like Auchvitz. "Work is Freedom" was the slogen oon the gateway to Auchvitz and in much the same way the jobs on offer are not really profitable or beneficial. They are just a cowardly way to beat up people who can't find work in Birmingham. I'd like to emphisis the word COWARDLY and PATHETIC! ... still must move on.
It's like those old bridges that would have been made in Scotland 100 years ago or dams made in China where 100-200 people would die at each site for each build because some you're employing some really primitive murderous people who will kill whoever they can if legally they think they will get away with it. It is disturbing, just take my word for it. I only wish there was something I could do to stop and reverse this regressive, largely unspoken, backward trend. Having eastern european brutes here doesn't help. The wilds of Urasia. The reason we have an immigration problem is because of the advent of air travel. Before that, the "Beasts of the East" created a natural, physical and social barrier to the "Eastern Hords of Asia". Sir, a mix.
ReplyDeleteI'm writing shit now but no more so than in national press or the daily mail. It#s nice to have a voice.
ReplyDeleteSHOE TALK.
ReplyDeleteI where these Italian leather loafers these days with flat no pattern plastic souls. They look great with a suit and I have adopted the classic style with age. The slightly raised, although effiminate looking, protects the back of your nice expensive trousers from being scuffed by keeping them off the floor.
I don't where trainers or boots anymore. The reason for this is that I have already spent so many hours of my working life mopping floors that I now wear these kind of shoes that leave no prints or marks even walking across a wet floor! You find when you go into Mc Donalds members of staff call you "Sir" which is nice.
If I'm working in my garden or I'm punching someone in the face I'll wear skate shoes or trainers for grip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aRMUF0Kh48
ReplyDeleteMark Gonzales here, funny guy. I mean, when he did the wallenburg four it just looked like the nastiest trick I've ever seen because he's quite short and for someone lanky like me who falls hard it looks terrifying.
http://www.youtube.com/user/wallaceward123#p/a
ReplyDeleteMy friend Ed.
Eddie is writing a series of short stories at the moment in the hope of turning them into short films. I've read one of the scripts he sent me and it's good stuff. Some free publicity Edd.
ReplyDeleteHe works for the BBC
ReplyDeleteIt's interesting Stephen Gately died from a "pulmonary oedema" because that is what you can expect to die from doing the chemi-blacking at Wallwork if the acid path becomes airborne in a closed environment in direct sunlight which is what I was having to content with. Read the data sheets, it's all there. Absolute nightmare.
ReplyDeleteEd is very enthusistic about acting and performance arts. Skating is perhaps more a form of performance arts than a sport I suppose. We used to skate together when we were teenagers.
ReplyDeleteEd writes ghost stories. He has many influences and is well read in all forms of popular English/British literature so reading his work is an education in itself.
There was a ghost at Wallwork. I'm going to write this now seeing as we are on the spooky stories theme. I didn't tell anyone but at one point I felt someone touching my back in the dark and there was no-one there. I remember it because it was such a strong sensation it was impossible to ignore. It was too real for me to dismiss.
The other time was when I was in the celler sand banking off the canal and I sat down for a rest just looking at the situation and thinking how absurd it was that the canal was actually flooding the celler and I saw a ghostly apparition moving towards the leaking wall on my left which was very real and very ghostly (in the traditional ghostly sense).
Like a faint white veiled figure moving as if with the wind towards the wall. I went to have a better look and it had already disappeared and I didn't see it again. I never mentioned any of this to my fellow employees and to be honest it didn't really scare me but it happened. Very old site, alot of history tied up in that place. 7th oldest limited company in England.
Of course Eddie is much better at writing than me. Perhaps it was just my sub-conscious telling me firstly that the job was going to f**k my back up and secondly that whoever built that 5 meter thick wall between the canal and our celler is long dead and buried to care that it leaks.
ReplyDelete...all the "osbourne villas" round here have rising damp from not being built properly. Who knows maybe it was the wonderful spirit of Oz.
ReplyDeleteIt looks like whoever is updating this site has given up, but for any skate enthusiasts out there who like reminising I'm going to recommend the following link. This you tube channel explores the link between skateboarding and christianity and how some professional skaters have joined the church.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/user/skatebookTV
my spelling is atrotious (spelt wrong) thank god for "spell checks"
ReplyDeleteI've had some people commenting that my posts are racist. I'm not a racist person. I don't judge people by the colour of their skin but by their actions. Some people have character traites that distinguish them from others but it's not necesarily a racial issue.
ReplyDeleteGUN OWNERSHIP
ReplyDeleteOk, the channel recommended has removed all it's vids so here's a link to a funny clip that used to be on the site:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5wmI0iKEp8
Here's a link to some American folk music I like about guns by Diana Jones:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMLsTobSlKo
And here's an old favourite by Nirvana, Kurt Cobain, "Come As You Are."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOL5cpwTkes
And here is Damien Rice's - 9 crimes official video. Quite thought provoking music about gun ownership.
Fuck, I've made enough of them, mostly headed for America. "Any dream will do" was my bosses work ethos. What the fuck are Americans dreaming about?
When it comes to one of these conflicts abroad I guess you've got to fight fire with fire but apart from that and practical uses hunting game or whatever I don't think there's any need for them. Scary things.
Damien Rice - 9 crimes (forgot to paste)
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/user/Damienrice
LEnNY KiRK LInKS
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V15Y28jtyj8&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk1dEFZoMPM&feature=related
Holy Shit.
Danny Way is too good. He's a warrior. Looking at his stuff on youtube. He says he's lucky to be good at skating and that it has been a "blessing" to him. You know, working nine to five isn't that bad. I've never broken any bones in the day job.... truth be told, alot of people are selfish, lazy, ignorant, arrogant. It is true, Danny Way presents a beautiful ideology of what skating is about. Unwaveringly hardcore guy. Well done dude.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0QvIL7srBk&feature=related
If he wasn't a pro skater I'm pretty sure he'd be on the front line somewhere else. The authenticity of the "skate or die" ethos cannot be replicated.
This is really bad spamming in this blog...certainly in the middle anyway... sorry whoever?
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